Festival de Lima 2016: “Icaros: A Vision”, entrevista con los realizadores de este film sobre el ayahuasca

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Icaros: A Vision (2016), una coproducción entre EE.UU. y Perú filmada en la selva de Iquitos, es una película que toma la forma de un viaje de Ayahuasca, narra con una propuesta visual hipnótica, la amistad de un joven chamán Shipibo-Conibo y una mujer norteamericana que busca lidiar con sus miedos.

La película, dirigida por Leonor Caraballo y Matteo Norzi, tuvo su estreno mundial en el Festival de Tribeca en abril pasado, y ahora se presenta en el 20° Festival de Lima como parte de la muestra paralela Múltiples Miradas, y tendrá una última función este sábado 12 a las 2:45 pm en Cineplanet Alcázar.

A continuación conversamos con el codirector Matteo Norzi y el productor Abou Farman, para conocer más sobre la experiencia de filmar una película en la selva amazónica y en un centro de curación de ayahuasca. Publicamos la entrevista en inglés (traducción al español coming soon):

A way to be the director of your afterlife

Sinopsis: Buscando un milagro, Angelina aterriza en un centro terapéutico de la Amazonía Peruana donde chamanes atienden a un grupo de extranjeros en busca de trascendencia, compañía y los secretos de la vida y la muerte. Con sus percepciones alteradas por la ayahuasca, Angelia entabla amistad con Arturo, un joven chamán indígena que está perdiendo la vista. A través de sus viajes alucinógenos, juntos le dan un nuevo sentido a su destino. Ella aprende a aceptar sus miedos mientras que Arturo se da cuenta de que será capaz de ver en la oscuridad y cantar sus canciones ceremoniales de curación, los ícaros.

Matteo, how did you and Leonor Caraballo first think on developing “Icaros”?

Matteo Norzi: From the very moment we met, back in 2008, Leonor and I bonded into an exclusive friendship of continuous exchange. And even if such a deep relationship was born during a difficult time -in the same period when Leonor got first diagnosed with a small lump of breast cancer-, we went through many great adventures. At the time we were both trying to pursue a career as visual artists in New York, and together we felt a lack of satisfaction, the sensation that we were investing our creative energies in an environment that was not really paying back on the spiritual level.

How did Leonor get in touch with ayahuasca and the Amazonic folklore?

Matteo: In 2012, Leonor -inspired by some research she was doing with her partner Abou Farman- invited me to go to the Peruvian Amazon where we got introduced to ayahuasca shamanism as per the contemporary practice of the Shipibo-Conibo people. After spending a few weeks in the very same healing center that would become the main location of the shoot, and still dazed by the astonishing sensations brought on by ayahuasca and the songs of the shamans, we found ourselves wondering around the dreamlike landscape of our journey. That was the moment when Icaros was just an intuition, a dream of freedom and a reciprocal promise for a shift in our destinies to actually accomplish something together that was worth our lives. A promise that kept us going during the most challenging times. Ayahuasca shamanism is much more than folklore. It is a sophisticated technology, a tool to reach regions of our consciousness hard to reach otherwise.

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Was there an autobiographic approach in the film?

Matteo: Fatally attracted by this world, we started to write a script about Arturo Izquierdo, a young shaman losing his eyesight, in juxtaposition with a group of foreigners -“los pasajeros”- craving a vision or a revelation. It’s only later on in the summer of 2013 when Leonor’s disease came back as terminal, that we decided to introduce into the script the character of Angelina, an American woman who -having exhausted her medical options- travels to the Amazon in search of a miracle. Basically now looking back at what happened, it feels that the film became what it is by destiny rather than as autobiography. It has been a way to explore the borders between the realm of the living and the dead and for Leonor -even more- a way to be the director of her afterlife.

Abou, tell us about the production process. Where in the Peruvian Amazon did you shoot the film? What difficulties did you find during the shooting?

Abou Farman: The shoot was north of Iquitos at an old ayahuasca center. It was just like a set, though Leo and Matteo and the crew did a lot to make it fit our aesthetic needs. Iquitos is where Fitzcarraldo was shot, so there was cinematic history there, though we wanted a different relationship to the place and to the history, because that was all part of a colonial line extending from the real Fitzcarraldo to Herzog. Iquitos is also the mecca of ayahuasca for foreign tourists -and that can bring its own neo-colonial problems, but we tried to be aware of that. We actually liked the fact that in this context, even if economic power lies elsewhere, there were all these urban, white foreigners whose minds were being orchestrated by Shipibo shamans and Amazonian chants. It’s a contemporary world, not the world of the past. It also may hold promises for a future.

How was the experience of working along the Peruvian crew?

Abou: The Peruvian partners, led by ‘Pinky’ [Enid Campos], went through a lot with us but kept on ticking. Many were less accustomed to and more fearful of the selva than the US crew.

Abou Farman Matteo Norzi Leonor Caraballo Coco Pepe Eliana Aziz Isham (producer) Cayo Vasquez (Iquitos)

Der a izq: Abou Farman (productor), Matteo Norzi, Leonor Caraballo (directores), Jorge ‘Koko’ Prado (asistente de dirección), Eliana Illescas (jefa de producción), José Navarro (asistente de producción), Aziz Isham (productor), Cayo Vásquez (asistente de producción – Iquitos).

It was tough from the beginning: our equipment coming up the Ucayali on a barge was hijacked by narcotraficantes and got to the set late; then animals and insects attacked the crew, outside and in their cabins; a number of people got sick, one with pretty bad case of leptospirosis. It was hot. Cooking was difficult. But ‘Pinky’ and the crew were professional throughout and stayed with us thankfully, often through arguments and clashes, and by the end, we were all exhausted. I am sure, and Leonor knew this too, that the shoot took its toll on he body and accelerated her cancer. She passed very quickly after we returned, during the first parts of the edit.

What are your expectations to have “Icaros” presented to a Peruvian audience?

Abou: Now it’s out and the film has received lots of good reactions. Peru is its home so we are nervous and excited to see the public reaction to it, Lima first, which is really a very urban crowd with its own ideas of the shamanism and the selva; and then we are taking the film to Iquitos and the healing center in the Amazon and then to Pucallpa, to share it with the Shipibo-Conibo people who participated in this.



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